"The alex series" book 2: Sweet Subjugation
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Chapter 86. The Interview
After Austin left my room happy and satisfied, I went to brush my teeth. No one was around, and that was a nice relief, although hardly anyone ever makes a big thing out of my being naked all the time, and besides, I was still pretty marked up from the weekend. I was getting dressed for my dinner date when Michael comes in speaking to someone on the phone. "Wednesday would work out better for me, but if you can only make it for Thursday I'll try to juggle a couple things. . . . oh really? well that's good. Okay. Good to talk to you. Text me? Good idea. Ok, thanks, Timothy. Goodbye."
And he throws himself back on his bed and sighs happily.
"Another promising connection?"
"Very promising. Sophomore. Good looking, intelligent, friendly, and so very very vanilla." And He groans.
"Hey, Mike, I give you credit for experimenting the way you are. Takes guts."
"Well this time, I was really gutsy. Twice in the course of our conversation I said something deliberately stupid and then said, `Oh, how dumb was that? I should be spanked."
"You didn't?"
"I did."
"Mad man. You might scare him away because he got the hint and isn't into it."
"Well, he's making a date with me for later this week, so . . . . AND his roommate left school and they haven't put anyone else in there with him yet."
"And you can always just use this room. Justin is home on Wednesday and if I get my way, I'll be at His place every night after that."
"Oh, don't make him think you're easy or anything!" they both laugh.
"This should be an interesting evening. I never got interviewed before about anything, so it might just as well be about being a pervert!"
And so it's time. I go outside and, just at the right time, the white car pulls up and I wave and he waves me to get in the car. Nice looking man. I'd say late 20's. Dark hair. Wire glasses. Pleasant smile as he introduces himself to me and, once I'm belted in, He drives off. "Are you a vegetarian?" He asks me. "No. Why?" "Well, there is this nice chop house I like to take people for interviews because the seating affords a lot of privacy. How does that sound to you? I'm also open to anything else you might be in the mood for."
"No, Sir, that's fine. Haven't had any red meat in a while. No pun intended!"
Cory laughs. "Let's be very informal. No need to use Sir. I always also recommend that we don't use any title but rather ordinary names, so if you want to speak about your Master, feel free to just say Justin if that's okay."
"that's fine, but I might slip from time to time out of habit."
"No problem. It's just that we can be more relaxed and not have to worry too much about anyone overhearing something to attract attention."
"Good point. So what words do I use instead of "whip" or "flog" or "cage"?"
Cory laughs. "oh great, I've got a wise one here."
"Nah. Usually whenever I get too wise I end up getting spanked, so I don't do it too often."
"good place to start, brandon. Do you get spanked often?"
"There is almost always some kind of heavy impact activity taking place, especially if we haven't seen each other for a while. For example, Justin's been away for over a week and gets home Wednesday. I'm in for it."
"And are you worried about that?"
"Oh, no, not at all! I'm just saying that He'll be interested in getting into something serious, some form of, like they say, heavy impact, and probably a lot of it. And, to tell you the truth, I'll be very disappointed if there isn't any."
"so you really enjoy it like that?"
"you bet. And, sometimes, I just crave it. Like I feel now. And He'll know that as soon as we get together. He's very good at assessing my moods and needs even if I don't say anything."
"so tell me, brandon, do you two have any particular set of signals you send to each other rather than having to talk about it?"
"no need of it. Like I say, Justin reads me totally. Right from the first time we met, He did."
"Would you feel comfortable telling me about that, the first time?"
"Well, it was rather sleazy so I'm not sure I should say."
"brandon, please understand that I do not share my interviews or notes with anyone, or the recording of our conversation, and we begin right away here and now to make sure you understand that nothing will get printed without your total approval, and if you wish, that of Justin as well."
"Good to know that, and it would be Justin who would give approval."
"You defer to him then? In many things?"
"Yes, I defer to Him, in everything. We spoke very frankly about that very early in our relationship, that He has a very controlling nature and that I am someone who really needs to be controlled, totally. And that's just the way it's been. So I can't tell you what will happen the night He gets home. It is completely up to Him, and usually He never asks my opinion; He just tells me the way it will be."
"That sounds like the old stereotypical wife from the fifties."
"No, not really, Cory. Those wives held a lot of power in some areas, just like on television. The humble wife was the one who mostly called all the shots. This is the opposite of it. Justin does call ALL the shots. Sure, I can ask, or beg for something, but the decision is always His. He is my . . tnat `m' word I'm not supposed to say."
"So when we contacted him for a possible interview and he recommended it would be more interesting for us to speak with you, he made that decision right there on the spot and you didn't know anything about it at all and was never asked for any input?"
"That's correct, Cory. He just told me last night that He'd set this up for tonight."
"And He pretty much knew that if He said this was going to happen with you, then He knew it would happen."
"Precisely."
"Well, what would happen if, for example, you didn't want to get interviewed or were reluctant to do it?"
"that doesn't matter. What matters is what He wants. That's the way I want to live. That's the way I do live."
"But let's say, for example, that you really didn't want to do it, so you say yes to him but then when you and I get together you really don't make an effort to have it turn out well."
"so you mean, like I might sabotage it?"
"Yes, something like that."
"Cory, if I ever did anything like that, I would get punished so badly I'd regret it for a long time."
"Let me unpack that for a minute, because you just overloaded me with information. First, are you saying that punishment is an ordinary part of your life?"
"yes. exactly. I am His slave. If I displease Him, He will punish me."
"You also indicated a degree of severity of the punishment, and you made it sound like it would be very severe."
"yes, that's true. Trying to spoil this interview would be something very serious. it would probably be one of the worst punishments ever."
"What does that mean?"
"Well, Cory, I'm assuming that you know something about heavy impact play and how it doesn't always get to be painful depending on the levels of the partners in giving or in taking. So pain is relative. But when I say serious punishment, what would happen is that I'd have no safe words and I'd probably be bound, and He's decided how severe it would be, and I know it's going to be something beyond my usual limits for ordinary play. It will REALLY HURT BAD."
They've reached the restaurant. "Hold that thought until we're seated and taken care of," says Cory.
"As you wish," brandon says with a smile and a wink. Cory laughs.
So they enter and all the usual restaurant stuff happens with cocktails ("Oh by the way, brandon," says Cory."Justin asked me to tell you that you can have one glass of wine.") and bread and ordering (here brandon tells Cory that it feels strange for him to do his own ordering. ("Just order what you really want," says Cory, or tell me what you really want and I'll order it for you to save you the embarrassment." "That would be great." )
So let's say all that is taken care of and let's get back to the interview.
"So you said it would really hurt bad."
"Yes. don't forget, we're talking about something very serious."
"And you usually have safe words?"
"Yes. Yellow and Red." Cory nods his head to indicate that he understands about those. "But if I'm being punished, M Justin takes away the safe words. I can't use them. If I do, He won't honor them. This is punishment. I'm a slave being punished. There's usually not much discussion in situations like that."
"So could you tell me anything about what that would be like? As far as what He'd use, where, things like that."
"Okay. He has. . WE have this thick leather strap that Justin likes to call the "punishment strap." It probably resembles what they used to call prison straps."
"And still do it some states."
"I don't know that. Well, that's what He'd use, and on my ass, a certain number. No gradual buildup. Just hard severe lashes well beyond what I could usually tolerate. And I'll cry out, and maybe even scream, and definitely cry and probably end up sobbing."
"Always on your bottom?"
"Yes, for punishment. That's always been the general practice. Anyway, that is what He likes it to be, so that is what it is."
"So with that strap, how many would it take to get you crying out?"
"One. That fucker really hurts!"
"What is the greatest number you have ever had?"
"Six. And that made it hard to sit down for a couple days and hurt for about a week."
"May I ask what that was for?"
"I'd rather not say."
"Okay. But what I can see is that the two of you have a certain ritual around punishment."
"yeah, we do."
"and it sounds terrible real. I know that in most bdsm `scenes,' a lot of tough language can be used at times, including words like punishment, but a lot of it is just play acting and it is all centered around pre-arranged norms and levels."
"yes, that's true. But for us, punishment is very real and there is no playing around."
"Do it happen often?"
"not too often, no. Because it works."
"What do you mean by that?"
"As Justin always says, the purpose of punishment is behavior modification. If I do something and get punished for it, there's a damn good possibility that I'll never do it again."
"And has that been true?"
"For the most part, yes."
"Would it be possible for you to give me an example?"
"Let me think about it. Nothing specific comes to mind at the moment."
"That's fine. I'd like to move us to another topic if I can."
"Sure."
"The role of emotion?"
"Emotion, you mean, as in love?"
"sure. We can begin there if you'd be comfortable with it."
"I'm in love with Justin. He is one of the most attractive men I've ever met. He takes very good care of me, and by that I also mean that He knows the things I need in a M/s relationship and He makes sure I get plenty of it. I trust Him with my life. I admire Him. He's a hero to me. enough?"
"that's fine and you say it all so easily."
"Yes, because I've said it before to other people who have asked."
"How long did it take for you to fall in love with Him?"
"The third time we were together I knew it was happening."
"Is it reciprocated?
"Now it is. It took Him longer than me. He's had a lot of subs but He's never fallen for any of them before, so it took Him a while to get used to the idea. It is wonderful!!!!!!
"I'm happy for you then. So He's had a lot more experience than you have?"
"Totally. I had no experience at all. I know I wanted it, and I'm very submissive, and He's had so much experience I thought He would quickly get bored working with a beginner, but it seems that it hasn't been a problem for Him, and if He wanted something more advanced, He always has the freedom to make other arrangements."
"That is really okay with you?"
"yes, although so far it hasn't happened. But we talked about it and I feel that it is His right to do whatever He wants. After all, He is the Master."
"So I've always wondered about something. It the two of you are truly in love as you say, then wouldn't that make it difficult if not impossible for Him to control you and discipline you, especially when it comes to pain or punishment?"
"It's a lot more simple than it looks, Cory. Yes, we are in love. Yes, He loves me. The issue is how we choose to "make love' to each other. It doesn't have to be limited to what is called "vanilla" sex. He loves me, therefore He does things that turn me on and things that I've told Him honestly that I really need. And I need Him to be in control of my life; I need Him to discipline and punish me if necessary; I need Him to feed my desires as His pain pig, to introduce things to me that I've never experienced or even thought about, and to work with me to expand my limits—which has already been happening a lot."
"I don't know about this, myself, to be honest. I couldn't see myself inflicting pain on someone I cared for."
"That's because you are not a sadist or a Dom, even if you like to do kinky things from time to time, as long as it is consensual."
"I understand, and thank you for helping me understand the intricacy of your relationship with each other."
"Well, you see it as intricate, but ---and you have to check with Justin about this--- for us it is a very simple manner. And for example, say you're with someone you care about and that person really get turned on by, say, you putting whipped cream on his nipples and then licking it off. Wouldn't you be inclined to do it when you are both in the mood?"
"Sure."
"Well then, that goes for anything. I like being spanked. I like having someone make my nipples sore; I like having someone order my food for me in a restaurant; I like getting tied up; I like being locked into chastity and having someone else determine when I get to orgasm. All of that and a lot more."
"I see. You do indeed seem to make it look a lot simpler. But you know what I would really like to do at this point, if possible? I'd like to interview the two of you together just to verify the things you are telling me."
"Two things: First of all, share your recording of this interview with Justin. Secondly, Justin is the One Who makes all the decisions about this. He gave permission for you to interview me. If you want to do more, either with me alone or with the both of us together, you need to go to Justin to make your request and then we will go with what He decides."
"And, from what you're telling me, I assume He will make those decisions without discussing them with you."
"Correct. Some people might resent that, but for me, it makes things very simple and takes the pressure of having to make decisions off my shoulders—and I like that!"
Cory laughs. "okay, I get it." Then brandon laughs.
Dinner is concluded. Cory expresses his appreciation to brandon and promises again that he and his Master will be able to see what he intends to publish and either amend or approve it. He drives brandon back to the dorm and they say good-bye.
When he gets back to his room, much to his surprise, Craig is there and Michael is naked and on his knees. What's going on now?